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Jun. 25th, 2006 02:44 pm

fic | Let's just be friends, okay? [joe/david]

Drive-by ficlet!

Also, rps so shield your eyes kiddies.


Let’s just be friends, okay?
joedavid, pg
25 june 2006


*

It's ten again, about time you showed your face amongst your co-workers, amongst your friends.

Just because you like your quiet evenings under the Christmas tree doesn't mean it's the Hollywood way. Go on, have a life, they say.

Catherine's hand warm on your arm pushing you out the door.

Right, how does this go again? "Hi," you say, walking in the door.

“Oh my god, Joe!” Torri says

“Joe is totally crushing on McKay,” David is saying, and, “Hi Joe.”

You smile.

“Last time I checked,” you say, “Joe was married and not crushing on boys.”

“He means John,” Torri says in her Dr. Weir voice.

“I mean John,” David says in his Dr. McKay voice.

“Well, that's different," you say, because they're expecting it. "I don’t know what John thinks, but everyone knows Rodney’s crushing on Sheppard.”

“He is not,” David says just to be contrary.

“Whatever,” you say.

David turns, and you know, you know.

You know.

You know how it’s going to go when David stands, arms wide and says, “Fine, I’ll prove it.”

You never particularly liked this part of acting. Some guys did, some guys really got into it, but you're never sure about what to do with your hands.

Maybe David's one of those guys who's fine with it. Who knows?

David’s mouth warm against your own pushing you back against the counter.

You knew.

You knew another guy named David once. Regular guy, regular Joe even hardy har har, everyone’s friend, good for a laugh. Dave, everyone called him.

The first day on set, you said, “Hey Dave,” and Torri said, “Oh no you didn’t.”

David said, “It’s David not Dave,” and “What’s for lunch?”

Whatever, you thought.

Whatever, you think. David pulls back and grins.

“See, nothing,” David Not Dave says to the room.

This is why you should've stayed with the writing, you think.

"I should have stayed with the writing," you say.

*


Addendum: It's drive-by guys so you know, not betaed, but it's also like 300 words so I doubt it matters.

And, she doesn't know this but this was totally because [livejournal.com profile] queenofalostart made think about rps again.
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aurora: (SGA Rodney Kiss)
[personal profile] aurora on 2006-06-25 08:58 pm (UTC)

Dude, 300 words should not make me grin like that. Also, you're one of the only people in SGA fandom that I trust with second person fic.

This line - “Joe is totally crushing on McKay,” David is saying, and, “Hi Joe.” is all kinds of awesome. Same goes for this one: The first day on set, you said, “Hey Dave,” and Torri said, “Oh no you didn’t.”

[identity profile] godofwine.livejournal.com on 2006-06-25 09:22 pm (UTC)

Firstly, thank you thank you thank you!

I um, technically have a longer work (and by longer, I mean, I've written about 5000 words maybe) in production but you know, there's all this plot to write. Blah.

And, I never wrote second person pov before SGA and then I came here and went: Hey, let's just throw a bunch of you's around and see what happens. I think it's because I was one of the lucky few who haven't really read bad second person though I hear it can be pretty gruesome so I'm all adventurous about it.

Also, you know I bet Joe totally is crushing on McKay like the rest of us.

Finally, am I the only one who thinks David Hewlett looks like a Dave? I mean, I can never actually see someone calling him Dave but he just has that air about him. I can't explain it.
aurora: (SGA Rodney Mad World)
[personal profile] aurora on 2006-06-25 09:50 pm (UTC)

Boo plot. :P I'm sure you can make it work!

Oh God, there is so much bad 2nd person out there. In my previous fandom - QAF US - there was this period where second person was totally the bestest new thing ever!!1! and every single writer had to try it. With disastrous consequences. Which is too bad, cause I love it (when done right) - it's more personal than 3rd person, and more detached than first (which I cannot read, ever).

Also, you know I bet Joe totally is crushing on McKay like the rest of us.
Damn right! :) Did you see the SGA special thingie [livejournal.com profile] spike21 posted? There's a short interview there with Joe (and a bigger one with David and Torri and Paul), and Joe's going on about how he and David always goof around, and he sounds so giddy.

Hah, one of my first RL crushes was called Dave, so I associate that name with him first, but yes, I can see him as a Dave. It somehow fits with his laid-back personality.
[identity profile] godofwine.livejournal.com on 2006-06-25 10:52 pm (UTC)

I lurked around QAF US for quite a bit, but I think I read most of the funnier pieces like [livejournal.com profile] eleveninches's stuff and um, I think there was [livejournal.com profile] bigboobedcanuck and some other really witty people that I can't remember. But wait, if you remember any, now I am insanely curious!

I totally agree about second person usage. First person is almost always very painful and I used to hate second person because it just seemed so unnatural. I was very much a third person girl, but sometimes I start writing and it's like I want to "talk" to the character instead of talking about them or something so I get into second. Or I start the first line and oops, there's a you and now I can't switch back.

Ok, I'm a Mac and apparently my computer hates my enjoyment of SGA because that video will not play. So instead I will have to "imagine" what you mean by "goof around" and "giddy" and you know, if I'm thinking of Joe giving David a very enthusiastic blowjob, that's totally just because of what the words invoked. I mean, I can only work with I'm given, right?

Dude, I had three real life David crushes in roll (sadly, none of them were even remotely like Daves) in three different states all with a dot on their right cheek. It was very bizarre, but now I will always have a special fondness for that name.
aurora: (SGA JohnRodney Beginnings)
[personal profile] aurora on 2006-06-25 11:49 pm (UTC)

Heh, I read those authors as well.

Ugh, I'm trying to find some good examples, but ever since SGA took over my life, my involvement in QAF fandom has been minimal at best. I remember reading a lot of it on bjfic (aka Worst Archive Ever Which Listed OOC as Genre) - I was young and QAF was my first fandom, okay.
The worst fics are gone now, due to new management and the ban on rape/ooc/over the top fics (and ensuing flamewars *rolls eyes*). This author has some 'fine' example. I'm not responsible for probable traumas.

Here's someone who did manage to pull it off (and pretty much started the trend).


It took me a while get used to second person - it felt uncredibly weird to read it at first. But I've grown to love it. It's kinda intimate as well.


Yes, of course, that's pretty much what they showed. :D:D

Damn, sorry you couldn't get it to work. I tried opening it with VLC, but failed. It's a .wmv file, so it should work with windows media player. I have no idea if there's a mac version of WMP. I also tried to convert it to .avi, but both times I wound up with chipmunk voices. I screwed up the audio somewhere, but I have no idea what I did wrong. I'm sure spike will get a better version up soon.

Me too. Oh Dave. :X
[identity profile] godofwine.livejournal.com on 2006-06-26 03:51 am (UTC)

Ok, second person: not always your friend!

And I remember [livejournal.com profile] burnitbackwards and [livejournal.com profile] susanderavish as well! The only thing I don't get is when authors use second person when the story is just a straightforward story that could be told in third. It's not really this interchangeable thing that it appears to be.


I have Windows Media Player for Mac but I get video and no audio. I get an error message about a missing codec, but it doesn't tell me *which* codec I'm missing. So I'm going to keep with my impression that a blowjob was giving because you know, all the boys are into it these days. ;)
aurora: (SGA John Atlantis Map)
[personal profile] aurora on 2006-06-26 01:42 pm (UTC)

It's not really this interchangeable thing that it appears to be. Word!

Okay, I'm so out of ideas, except for this: another awesome person on my flist posted another rip of the same file here. I'd say give it a try.
aurora: (SGA JohnRodney So.Close.)
[personal profile] aurora on 2006-06-26 01:46 pm (UTC)

Or an .avi torrent here.

I'll stop spamming now, I promise. *g*
[identity profile] tzi.livejournal.com on 2006-06-26 03:47 am (UTC)

Ok, I'm a Mac and apparently my computer hates my enjoyment of SGA because that video will not play.

When you say 'it will not play'.... I'm wondering why? It works like a charm for me (OSX, Pather 3.9). I mean, the copy's not that great, but it plays like a charm, so =D
[identity profile] godofwine.livejournal.com on 2006-06-26 03:54 am (UTC)

I'm on Tiger and I have had things work on Panther but not on Tiger before. Who knows? Mac's codecs hate me for some reason, and apparently I got the lame version that requires random starts of Garage Band to get youtube's audio to work.

Oh Mac, I love you but why doesn't anything work??
[identity profile] tzi.livejournal.com on 2006-06-26 04:00 am (UTC)

So... Windows Media Player just is laughing at you or what?

*blinks* =D
[identity profile] godofwine.livejournal.com on 2006-06-26 04:29 am (UTC)

Windows Media Player is like "bitch, how dare you switch from a PC! Now you have just been pwned if you know what I mean!"
[identity profile] tzi.livejournal.com on 2006-06-26 04:36 am (UTC)

Have you tried Flip4Mac (http://www.flip4mac.com/)? Supposedly, it works so that QT can play wmv files. I didn't like it much, personally, but I don't use QT unless I have to. That might help you out some.
[identity profile] godofwine.livejournal.com on 2006-06-26 04:40 am (UTC)

Yeah, I have that installed and I get a "quicktime cannot open movie" message. Honestly, I think my mac just has a lot of issues.
[identity profile] tzi.livejournal.com on 2006-06-26 04:45 am (UTC)

I'd suggest uninstalling both programs and doing a clean download. Mac's got most of the codecs you'd need for any given thing, so I honestly cannot think what it's doing. Mine works like the angels they've always been ^_~
[identity profile] perhael.livejournal.com on 2006-06-26 12:16 am (UTC)

Butting in here, but:

Finally, am I the only one who thinks David Hewlett looks like a Dave? I mean, I can never actually see someone calling him Dave but he just has that air about him. I can't explain it.

I am *so* there with you.

Also, loved the fic. Eeeeee boykissing!
[identity profile] godofwine.livejournal.com on 2006-06-26 03:22 am (UTC)

David Hewlett looks too friendly and nice to be a David. He so looks like the guy you would call up and get a beer with and those guys are so DAVEs!

Boykissing makes the world a better place. No really.
[identity profile] skoosiepants.livejournal.com on 2006-06-25 10:23 pm (UTC)

I'm normally to fond of second person, but this was wonderfully done :)

Also, I couldn't stop singing this (http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=AC4594B921A965EA) in my head.
[identity profile] godofwine.livejournal.com on 2006-06-25 10:53 pm (UTC)

No, I agree, second person is in no way as cool as third person, but um, I was weak and this is what came out. But thank you!

Ok, this fic now officially has a theme song! ;)
[identity profile] skoosiepants.livejournal.com on 2006-06-25 11:04 pm (UTC)

Ok, this fic now officially has a theme song! ;) Hurrah! And also? I was on crack when I wrote that review, because what the heck does "I'm normally to fond of" mean? Durh. Sorry about that *g*
[identity profile] godofwine.livejournal.com on 2006-06-26 03:27 am (UTC)

Ok, the number of typos that are regularly scattered throughout all my writing is horrendous but funny kinda like George Bush.
[identity profile] torakowalski.livejournal.com on 2006-06-25 11:21 pm (UTC)

Ah, I love second person when it's done right and you've used it brilliantly and beautifully here. Greatness.
[identity profile] godofwine.livejournal.com on 2006-06-26 03:34 am (UTC)

Thank you so much! Second person is a strangely weird place to think in, and I have this theory that you can't really sustain it too long because it gets to be too much but it's a shiny toy to play with sometimes.
ext_3042: (sga: sad sad hair)
[identity profile] queenofalostart.livejournal.com on 2006-06-26 12:37 am (UTC)

YAYE!!! OMFG YAYE!!!!!!!

*HEART BURST ALL OVER THE FLOOR, TOO MUCH GLITTER TO PICK UP!*

The first day on set, you said, “Hey Dave,” and Torri said, “Oh no you didn’t.”

David said, “It’s David not Dave,” and “What’s for lunch?”


YOU NEED TO WRITE MORE NOW. ONLY THEN WILL I TURN OFF THE CAPSLOCK!!!
[identity profile] godofwine.livejournal.com on 2006-06-26 04:01 am (UTC)

WE WELCOME GLITTER LIKE IT'S GOING OUT OF STYLE!

ALSO, I HAVE NOTHING LEFT TO SAY...THEY NEED TO TOUCH MORE LIKE THE LOTR BOYS FOR ME TO ACTUALLY HAVE THEM GET IT ON BUT YOU SHOULD TOTALLY CONTINUE IT FOR ME AND YOUR FIC AS WELL! DON'T TEMPT ME HO AND NOT FOLLOW THROUGH!

(This is starting to look a weird threatening letter of some kind but two can totally play at the caps lock game.)
[identity profile] shihadchick.livejournal.com on 2006-06-26 10:16 am (UTC)

ooh. really liked this - like, well, every other person said - you pulled off the second person very well, and the rhythm of it is so consistent and just GOOD and it totally made me flail with the rightness of how it read.

“Joe is totally crushing on McKay,” David is saying, and, “Hi Joe.”
I LOVE that line.
[identity profile] mandysbitch.livejournal.com on 2006-06-26 12:17 pm (UTC)

Heh. This was *great.* And second person is awesome, don't let anyone tell you otherwise. It gets done crappily sometimes and I think everyone gets put off - but here it's done expertly. And 2nd person is great if only because it usually inspires a whole different style - and look how cool and effective your amazingly succinct here is!

I say, try it again sometime. It rocks. *g*
[identity profile] slashpile.livejournal.com on 2006-06-26 01:58 pm (UTC)

Mostly, this was just funny and wonderful, but now you've got me wondering why does second person work so well for Joe?

Because the thing is, it's not that you're getting away with it, but that it almost invokes Joe. Now that's an interesting personality trait! Veeerrry interesting.
[identity profile] kaizoku.livejournal.com on 2006-06-26 10:55 pm (UTC)

I like this a lot. The light touch, bare-bones dialogue and jumping from thought to thought and use of 2nd person all combined to make me feel as bewildered as Joe. In a good way. Also, the idea of "Joe crushing on McKay" (Freudian slip I think not!) is very interesting. Not that I've read a whole lot of rps but the actor-meta in this fandom's rps seems comparatively a lot deeper...
ext_1771: Joe Flanigan looking A-Dorable. (jf & dh - celeb)
[identity profile] monanotlisa.livejournal.com on 2006-08-06 12:36 pm (UTC)

I like this a lot -- you can pull it off as a writer, so I don't at all mind second person.